diff --git a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
index 1d47e6c..3c12fc1 100644
--- a/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
+++ b/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
@@ -78,7 +78,9 @@
 http://www.xenotime.net/linux/scripts/patching-scripts-002.tar.gz
 
 Andrew Morton's patch scripts:
-http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/patch-scripts-0.20
+http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/
+Instead of these scripts, quilt is the recommended patch management
+tool (see above).
 
 
 
@@ -97,7 +99,7 @@
 
 3) Separate your changes.
 
-Separate each logical change into its own patch.
+Separate _logical changes_ into a single patch file.
 
 For example, if your changes include both bug fixes and performance
 enhancements for a single driver, separate those changes into two
@@ -112,6 +114,10 @@
 complete, that is OK.  Simply note "this patch depends on patch X"
 in your patch description.
 
+If you cannot condense your patch set into a smaller set of patches,
+then only post say 15 or so at a time and wait for review and integration.
+
+
 
 4) Select e-mail destination.
 
@@ -124,6 +130,10 @@
 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org.  Most kernel developers monitor this
 e-mail list, and can comment on your changes.
 
+
+Do not send more than 15 patches at once to the vger mailing lists!!!
+
+
 Linus Torvalds is the final arbiter of all changes accepted into the
 Linux kernel.  His e-mail address is <torvalds@osdl.org>.  He gets
 a lot of e-mail, so typically you should do your best to -avoid- sending
@@ -149,6 +159,9 @@
 MAINTAINERS file for a mailing list that relates specifically to
 your change.
 
+Majordomo lists of VGER.KERNEL.ORG at:
+	<http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html>
+
 If changes affect userland-kernel interfaces, please send
 the MAN-PAGES maintainer (as listed in the MAINTAINERS file)
 a man-pages patch, or at least a notification of the change,
@@ -378,22 +391,6 @@
 references.
 
 
-13) More references for submitting patches
-
-Andrew Morton, "The perfect patch" (tpp).
-  <http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/tpp.txt>
-
-Jeff Garzik, "Linux kernel patch submission format."
-  <http://linux.yyz.us/patch-format.html>
-
-Greg KH, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer"
-  <http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/03/31/>
-
-Kernel Documentation/CodingStyle
-  <http://sosdg.org/~coywolf/lxr/source/Documentation/CodingStyle>
-
-Linus Torvald's mail on the canonical patch format:
-  <http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/4/7/183>
 
 
 -----------------------------------
@@ -466,3 +463,30 @@
 Don't try to anticipate nebulous future cases which may or may not
 be useful:  "Make it as simple as you can, and no simpler."
 
+
+
+----------------------
+SECTION 3 - REFERENCES
+----------------------
+
+Andrew Morton, "The perfect patch" (tpp).
+  <http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/tpp.txt>
+
+Jeff Garzik, "Linux kernel patch submission format."
+  <http://linux.yyz.us/patch-format.html>
+
+Greg Kroah, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer".
+  <http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/03/31/>
+  <http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/07/08/>
+  <http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/10/19/>
+
+NO!!!! No more huge patch bombs to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org people!.
+  <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=112112749912944&w=2>
+
+Kernel Documentation/CodingStyle
+  <http://sosdg.org/~coywolf/lxr/source/Documentation/CodingStyle>
+
+Linus Torvald's mail on the canonical patch format:
+  <http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/4/7/183>
+--
+Last updated on 17 Nov 2005.